1 00:00:12,549 --> 00:00:10,390 good afternoon my name is dwane brown 2 00:00:14,709 --> 00:00:12,559 with the office of communications and 3 00:00:17,349 --> 00:00:14,719 welcome to nasa headquarters 4 00:00:18,630 --> 00:00:17,359 today nasa reveals near-earth asteroid 5 00:00:21,189 --> 00:00:18,640 findings 6 00:00:23,830 --> 00:00:21,199 and implications for future research 7 00:00:27,910 --> 00:00:23,840 from the agency's near-earth object 8 00:00:30,310 --> 00:00:27,920 wide field infrared survey explore 9 00:00:32,069 --> 00:00:30,320 in short kneel-wise 10 00:00:34,470 --> 00:00:32,079 today's 11 00:00:38,229 --> 00:00:34,480 information and graphics can be obtained 12 00:00:41,430 --> 00:00:39,350 wise 13 00:00:43,510 --> 00:00:41,440 we will have brief presentations from 14 00:00:44,630 --> 00:00:43,520 our presenters then open it up for 15 00:00:47,670 --> 00:00:44,640 questions 16 00:00:49,910 --> 00:00:47,680 at our nasa centers and the phone bridge 17 00:00:51,189 --> 00:00:49,920 before we get started let me introduce 18 00:00:52,709 --> 00:00:51,199 you to today's 19 00:00:54,470 --> 00:00:52,719 speakers 20 00:00:56,310 --> 00:00:54,480 first up 21 00:00:58,630 --> 00:00:56,320 lynley johnson 22 00:01:03,750 --> 00:00:58,640 neo program executive 23 00:01:08,390 --> 00:01:05,270 amy meinzer 24 00:01:10,630 --> 00:01:08,400 neowise principal investigator 25 00:01:15,510 --> 00:01:10,640 nasa's jet propulsion laboratory 26 00:01:17,910 --> 00:01:16,870 tim sparr 27 00:01:20,870 --> 00:01:17,920 director 28 00:01:23,590 --> 00:01:20,880 minor planet center smithsonian 29 00:01:27,429 --> 00:01:23,600 astrophysical observatory cambridge 30 00:01:32,630 --> 00:01:30,310 and lucy mcfadden scientist 31 00:01:35,109 --> 00:01:32,640 nasa's goddard space flight center in 32 00:01:38,230 --> 00:01:35,119 greenbelt maryland and with that 33 00:01:39,830 --> 00:01:38,240 i'll toss it to lindley to start us off 34 00:01:41,429 --> 00:01:39,840 thanks 35 00:01:42,950 --> 00:01:41,439 thank you all for tuning in to hear 36 00:01:44,950 --> 00:01:42,960 about our progress with the near-earth 37 00:01:46,870 --> 00:01:44,960 object observation program 38 00:01:48,230 --> 00:01:46,880 we're here today to provide an update of 39 00:01:50,950 --> 00:01:48,240 our understanding of the near-earth 40 00:01:53,590 --> 00:01:50,960 asteroid population and announce uh 41 00:01:55,190 --> 00:01:53,600 achievement of some significant goals 42 00:01:56,550 --> 00:01:55,200 in finding our nearest neighbors in the 43 00:01:58,550 --> 00:01:56,560 solar system 44 00:02:00,310 --> 00:01:58,560 over the past 12 years 45 00:02:02,550 --> 00:02:00,320 our work to find near-earth asteroids 46 00:02:05,109 --> 00:02:02,560 has largely been done by several 47 00:02:08,469 --> 00:02:05,119 ground-based observatory teams but in 48 00:02:10,389 --> 00:02:08,479 2010 nasa augmented those efforts by 49 00:02:11,990 --> 00:02:10,399 enhancement of the ground processing of 50 00:02:14,630 --> 00:02:12,000 the data being returned by the wide 51 00:02:17,270 --> 00:02:14,640 field infrared survey explorer 52 00:02:19,350 --> 00:02:17,280 this enhancement project called neowise 53 00:02:21,030 --> 00:02:19,360 processed all the sky images sent back 54 00:02:23,110 --> 00:02:21,040 from wise to detect objects moving 55 00:02:25,270 --> 00:02:23,120 across the sky background those objects 56 00:02:26,949 --> 00:02:25,280 that would be in our solar system 57 00:02:29,110 --> 00:02:26,959 this was mainly done to find near-earth 58 00:02:30,790 --> 00:02:29,120 asteroids and comets but a great many 59 00:02:33,190 --> 00:02:30,800 main build asteroids and other objects 60 00:02:35,670 --> 00:02:33,200 in the solar system were also found 61 00:02:37,509 --> 00:02:35,680 the year of wise observation also led to 62 00:02:40,229 --> 00:02:37,519 two very significant findings for the 63 00:02:42,470 --> 00:02:40,239 near-earth object observation business 64 00:02:44,229 --> 00:02:42,480 the neo-wise project has confirmed 65 00:02:45,350 --> 00:02:44,239 completion of the original goal set with 66 00:02:48,390 --> 00:02:45,360 congress 67 00:02:50,309 --> 00:02:48,400 back in 1998 of our program 68 00:02:52,229 --> 00:02:50,319 which was defined 90 percent of the one 69 00:02:53,910 --> 00:02:52,239 kilometer and larger near-earth 70 00:02:55,990 --> 00:02:53,920 asteroids 71 00:02:58,630 --> 00:02:56,000 the second significant finding is the 72 00:03:00,869 --> 00:02:58,640 population of medium-sized near-earth 73 00:03:03,110 --> 00:03:00,879 asteroids those between 100 meters and 74 00:03:04,869 --> 00:03:03,120 one kilometer in size is probably 75 00:03:06,149 --> 00:03:04,879 somewhat less than we were estimating 76 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:06,159 before 77 00:03:10,710 --> 00:03:08,640 so if i could have the first graphic up 78 00:03:13,030 --> 00:03:10,720 uh this is an animated view of our solar 79 00:03:14,949 --> 00:03:13,040 system looking down from the sun 80 00:03:16,710 --> 00:03:14,959 with the inner planets uh orbits 81 00:03:19,589 --> 00:03:16,720 depicted in circles 82 00:03:21,830 --> 00:03:19,599 uh mercury venus earth and mars is the 83 00:03:24,149 --> 00:03:21,840 outer uh ring 84 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:24,159 i have to point out that this uh diagram 85 00:03:27,270 --> 00:03:25,840 the sizes of these objects is not to 86 00:03:29,509 --> 00:03:27,280 scale if it were 87 00:03:31,110 --> 00:03:29,519 even the planets would be 88 00:03:32,789 --> 00:03:31,120 so small that you couldn't really see 89 00:03:34,710 --> 00:03:32,799 them 90 00:03:36,789 --> 00:03:34,720 so if we could have the uh 91 00:03:38,789 --> 00:03:36,799 animation in motion now all the small 92 00:03:43,190 --> 00:03:38,799 red dots seemingly swirling about like 93 00:03:48,789 --> 00:03:46,710 are shown in the in the red those that 94 00:03:50,869 --> 00:03:48,799 we previously knew about 95 00:03:53,589 --> 00:03:50,879 are now shown in yellow or maybe orange 96 00:03:56,869 --> 00:03:53,599 in some screens those that were detected 97 00:03:58,550 --> 00:03:56,879 by the neowise project are now in blue 98 00:04:09,350 --> 00:03:58,560 and the new objects that were detected 99 00:04:15,350 --> 00:04:12,229 from this sample that the wise 100 00:04:17,189 --> 00:04:15,360 neo-wise project was able to find 101 00:04:19,430 --> 00:04:17,199 we've projected a more accurate model of 102 00:04:21,509 --> 00:04:19,440 the overall population that is over 40 103 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:21,519 less in numbers which we now compare 104 00:04:25,270 --> 00:04:23,440 here with the old model 105 00:04:28,230 --> 00:04:25,280 of the estimated population so you can 106 00:04:30,390 --> 00:04:28,240 see considerably less numbers 107 00:04:31,909 --> 00:04:30,400 so if this new bottle holds up it will 108 00:04:33,670 --> 00:04:31,919 mean the number of hundred meter and 109 00:04:35,909 --> 00:04:33,680 larger near-earth asteroids yet to be 110 00:04:37,189 --> 00:04:35,919 found is somewhat less but even this new 111 00:04:39,350 --> 00:04:37,199 population 112 00:04:41,110 --> 00:04:39,360 there are over fifteen thousand objects 113 00:04:42,790 --> 00:04:41,120 still to be found 114 00:04:44,950 --> 00:04:42,800 it will take more capable systems and 115 00:04:47,030 --> 00:04:44,960 several more years of survey efforts 116 00:04:48,469 --> 00:04:47,040 to find these relatively small and dim 117 00:04:50,230 --> 00:04:48,479 objects it's something like trying to 118 00:04:51,430 --> 00:04:50,240 detect a candle at the distance of the 119 00:04:53,590 --> 00:04:51,440 moon 120 00:04:56,150 --> 00:04:53,600 to tell us more about the neowise 121 00:04:57,909 --> 00:04:56,160 project as our principal investigator dr 122 00:04:59,749 --> 00:04:57,919 amy manger 123 00:05:01,909 --> 00:04:59,759 well thanks lindley and thanks all of 124 00:05:03,670 --> 00:05:01,919 you for tuning in this afternoon uh it's 125 00:05:05,029 --> 00:05:03,680 great to be here wise was a very short 126 00:05:07,590 --> 00:05:05,039 mission and we're very happy to have 127 00:05:09,430 --> 00:05:07,600 these results to present so quickly 128 00:05:11,430 --> 00:05:09,440 so as lindley mentioned we find that 129 00:05:13,350 --> 00:05:11,440 there are fewer near-earth asteroids out 130 00:05:15,990 --> 00:05:13,360 there however it's very important to 131 00:05:17,510 --> 00:05:16,000 note that fewer does not mean none 132 00:05:19,110 --> 00:05:17,520 and there are still tens of thousands 133 00:05:20,550 --> 00:05:19,120 that are out there that we need to find 134 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:20,560 that are left 135 00:05:24,070 --> 00:05:22,240 as one of my colleagues at the jet 136 00:05:26,150 --> 00:05:24,080 propulsion laboratory likes to say the 137 00:05:28,469 --> 00:05:26,160 best three ways of dealing with the 138 00:05:30,710 --> 00:05:28,479 potential of an asteroid impact are to 139 00:05:31,909 --> 00:05:30,720 find them early find them early and find 140 00:05:33,670 --> 00:05:31,919 them early 141 00:05:35,430 --> 00:05:33,680 if you can find near-earth asteroids 142 00:05:37,670 --> 00:05:35,440 when they're far away it would take far 143 00:05:39,830 --> 00:05:37,680 less energy to mitigate a potentially 144 00:05:41,670 --> 00:05:39,840 threatening object so this is why we 145 00:05:45,350 --> 00:05:41,680 carry out surveys like the ones that 146 00:05:47,749 --> 00:05:45,360 lindley has described and like neowise 147 00:05:49,430 --> 00:05:47,759 so one of the characteristics of neowise 148 00:05:51,749 --> 00:05:49,440 is that it really was a fairly small 149 00:05:53,510 --> 00:05:51,759 telescope in a low earth orbit in fact 150 00:05:55,110 --> 00:05:53,520 the telescope would kind of fit under 151 00:05:57,350 --> 00:05:55,120 your arm like this so it's not 152 00:05:59,590 --> 00:05:57,360 particularly large but by virtue of 153 00:06:01,029 --> 00:05:59,600 being in space and operating at infrared 154 00:06:02,629 --> 00:06:01,039 wavelengths it's a very powerful 155 00:06:05,350 --> 00:06:02,639 telescope and it turns out to be very 156 00:06:07,110 --> 00:06:05,360 good at finding asteroids and comets 157 00:06:09,189 --> 00:06:07,120 now if you go to the first animation 158 00:06:11,110 --> 00:06:09,199 here you can see a little representation 159 00:06:13,510 --> 00:06:11,120 of what wise looks like going around the 160 00:06:15,909 --> 00:06:13,520 earth it's always pointing outward from 161 00:06:18,070 --> 00:06:15,919 the earth surveying the whole sky and as 162 00:06:19,830 --> 00:06:18,080 the earth goes around the sun 163 00:06:21,749 --> 00:06:19,840 this allows the telescope to very 164 00:06:23,510 --> 00:06:21,759 quickly and efficiently carry out a 165 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:23,520 survey of the whole sky 166 00:06:26,950 --> 00:06:25,360 and in fact it was so fast we were able 167 00:06:29,510 --> 00:06:26,960 to survey the whole sky twice in 168 00:06:30,550 --> 00:06:29,520 infrared wavelengths in only one year 169 00:06:32,390 --> 00:06:30,560 and you can see here a little 170 00:06:34,309 --> 00:06:32,400 representation of the difference between 171 00:06:37,189 --> 00:06:34,319 visible light and the infrared light 172 00:06:38,710 --> 00:06:37,199 that wise was able to see 173 00:06:41,430 --> 00:06:38,720 so this was a very efficient and 174 00:06:42,950 --> 00:06:41,440 effective way of surveying the sky and 175 00:06:44,710 --> 00:06:42,960 the original purpose of the mission was 176 00:06:46,309 --> 00:06:44,720 actually to study cool stars in very 177 00:06:48,469 --> 00:06:46,319 distant galaxies and it's doing a great 178 00:06:51,029 --> 00:06:48,479 job of that however it turns out to also 179 00:06:52,870 --> 00:06:51,039 be very good at detecting asteroids 180 00:06:53,749 --> 00:06:52,880 this is because it's using infrared 181 00:06:55,510 --> 00:06:53,759 light 182 00:06:57,830 --> 00:06:55,520 if we look at the next slide here we can 183 00:07:00,870 --> 00:06:57,840 see two asteroids we can see a close-up 184 00:07:03,270 --> 00:07:00,880 of them one is very bright and kind of 185 00:07:05,990 --> 00:07:03,280 shiny more reflective and the other one 186 00:07:07,589 --> 00:07:06,000 is very dark like a piece of charcoal or 187 00:07:09,670 --> 00:07:07,599 barbecue so at the bottom of your 188 00:07:12,070 --> 00:07:09,680 barbecue they're both the same size 189 00:07:13,749 --> 00:07:12,080 however now when we're close up to these 190 00:07:16,230 --> 00:07:13,759 asteroids you can actually see that 191 00:07:17,990 --> 00:07:16,240 they're the same size but the problem is 192 00:07:20,390 --> 00:07:18,000 most of the time we're not close up to 193 00:07:22,870 --> 00:07:20,400 the asteroids if we roll the animation 194 00:07:24,469 --> 00:07:22,880 we can start to see what happens next 195 00:07:26,309 --> 00:07:24,479 when we're close up it's easy to get a 196 00:07:28,070 --> 00:07:26,319 very good estimate of their sizes but 197 00:07:29,830 --> 00:07:28,080 now imagine that they're far away and 198 00:07:32,550 --> 00:07:29,840 we're observing them through a very 199 00:07:34,230 --> 00:07:32,560 distant telescope if even at the even if 200 00:07:36,629 --> 00:07:34,240 they're at the same distance to this 201 00:07:38,870 --> 00:07:36,639 visible light telescope the one that is 202 00:07:40,390 --> 00:07:38,880 brighter is going to appear brighter to 203 00:07:42,710 --> 00:07:40,400 the visible light telescope and the one 204 00:07:44,550 --> 00:07:42,720 that's darker looks fainter 205 00:07:46,710 --> 00:07:44,560 however if we can look with an infrared 206 00:07:48,550 --> 00:07:46,720 telescope what we're seeing now is 207 00:07:50,629 --> 00:07:48,560 actually heat that's being emitted from 208 00:07:53,029 --> 00:07:50,639 the objects and so to the infrared 209 00:07:55,110 --> 00:07:53,039 telescope they look the same brightness 210 00:07:58,150 --> 00:07:55,120 and from that we're able to determine 211 00:07:59,909 --> 00:07:58,160 their sizes the other benefit of this is 212 00:08:02,150 --> 00:07:59,919 it means that infrared telescopes are 213 00:08:04,790 --> 00:08:02,160 less intrinsically biased against 214 00:08:06,309 --> 00:08:04,800 finding small dark near-earth asteroids 215 00:08:07,990 --> 00:08:06,319 and this gives us a better 216 00:08:10,629 --> 00:08:08,000 representative sample of the true 217 00:08:12,070 --> 00:08:10,639 population so with neowise we didn't go 218 00:08:13,589 --> 00:08:12,080 out and find every single asteroid 219 00:08:16,150 --> 00:08:13,599 that's out there but we got a good 220 00:08:17,270 --> 00:08:16,160 representative sample kind of like doing 221 00:08:19,670 --> 00:08:17,280 a census 222 00:08:20,790 --> 00:08:19,680 where you take a poll of a small subset 223 00:08:23,350 --> 00:08:20,800 of people that you think is 224 00:08:24,869 --> 00:08:23,360 representative of what everybody thinks 225 00:08:27,430 --> 00:08:24,879 and so that's what we've been able to do 226 00:08:28,950 --> 00:08:27,440 with neowise if we go to our next chart 227 00:08:30,150 --> 00:08:28,960 we can see how these results have 228 00:08:32,149 --> 00:08:30,160 applied 229 00:08:33,990 --> 00:08:32,159 if we look at the very largest asteroids 230 00:08:35,670 --> 00:08:34,000 these are one kilometer and larger 231 00:08:37,269 --> 00:08:35,680 objects so these are the the planet 232 00:08:38,630 --> 00:08:37,279 busters these are the things that are 233 00:08:40,949 --> 00:08:38,640 like the one that is thought to have 234 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:40,959 caused the extinction of the dinosaurs 235 00:08:44,230 --> 00:08:42,880 the good news here is that with neowise 236 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:44,240 we've been able to confirm that the 237 00:08:48,389 --> 00:08:46,320 worldwide community of astronomers both 238 00:08:51,269 --> 00:08:48,399 amateur and professional all over the 239 00:08:52,829 --> 00:08:51,279 place have now found more than 90 240 00:08:55,110 --> 00:08:52,839 percent of all of these really big 241 00:08:56,630 --> 00:08:55,120 asteroids and that's represented as the 242 00:08:57,910 --> 00:08:56,640 filled in asteroids the ones that look 243 00:08:59,750 --> 00:08:57,920 sort of tan 244 00:09:03,030 --> 00:08:59,760 we believe that there are something like 245 00:09:04,790 --> 00:09:03,040 981 in the total population 246 00:09:06,710 --> 00:09:04,800 and this is very close to the original 247 00:09:08,550 --> 00:09:06,720 estimate of about a thousand objects 248 00:09:10,389 --> 00:09:08,560 that's what you see in the blue outline 249 00:09:11,829 --> 00:09:10,399 right there the green outline represents 250 00:09:13,829 --> 00:09:11,839 the the difference in our prediction 251 00:09:15,750 --> 00:09:13,839 with neo-wise so we're saying the total 252 00:09:17,990 --> 00:09:15,760 number is about the same but the the new 253 00:09:19,590 --> 00:09:18,000 thing here is that we can now confirm 254 00:09:21,829 --> 00:09:19,600 that we have met the so-called space 255 00:09:24,070 --> 00:09:21,839 guard goal of finding 90 percent of all 256 00:09:25,190 --> 00:09:24,080 the one kilometer asteroids so we know 257 00:09:27,350 --> 00:09:25,200 where they are 258 00:09:29,590 --> 00:09:27,360 and by virtue of the fact that we know 259 00:09:31,829 --> 00:09:29,600 these objects and we know their orbits 260 00:09:34,070 --> 00:09:31,839 we can predict that they are no longer 261 00:09:35,910 --> 00:09:34,080 uh hazardous to earth in the sense that 262 00:09:37,750 --> 00:09:35,920 we can follow them and we know that 263 00:09:39,509 --> 00:09:37,760 there are none that pose any imminent 264 00:09:41,269 --> 00:09:39,519 risk of an impact 265 00:09:43,269 --> 00:09:41,279 if we look at smaller sizes with the 266 00:09:45,350 --> 00:09:43,279 neowise data if we go to the next line 267 00:09:47,030 --> 00:09:45,360 in the chart you can start to see the 268 00:09:49,030 --> 00:09:47,040 differences in the previous prediction 269 00:09:50,870 --> 00:09:49,040 of the population versus our prediction 270 00:09:53,590 --> 00:09:50,880 of the population the previous 271 00:09:55,430 --> 00:09:53,600 prediction is shown as the blue outlines 272 00:09:57,269 --> 00:09:55,440 and our prediction is shown as the green 273 00:09:58,630 --> 00:09:57,279 outlines and again you can see that the 274 00:10:00,389 --> 00:09:58,640 the fraction of objects that have 275 00:10:02,550 --> 00:10:00,399 already been discovered are shown as 276 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:02,560 filled in and going to still smaller 277 00:10:06,790 --> 00:10:05,440 sizes we can see another layer of this 278 00:10:08,630 --> 00:10:06,800 so if we could have the next layer in 279 00:10:10,150 --> 00:10:08,640 the chart you can see that now the 280 00:10:12,630 --> 00:10:10,160 prediction is showing that there are 281 00:10:15,269 --> 00:10:12,640 somewhat less but we've also found 282 00:10:17,110 --> 00:10:15,279 proportionally less of these objects 283 00:10:18,949 --> 00:10:17,120 so there are still many remaining to be 284 00:10:20,870 --> 00:10:18,959 found and if we go to the next layer you 285 00:10:22,870 --> 00:10:20,880 can see that this continues 286 00:10:25,269 --> 00:10:22,880 so if we go to the final layer of the 287 00:10:28,069 --> 00:10:25,279 chart for objects that are smaller than 288 00:10:30,389 --> 00:10:28,079 about 100 meters the neowise survey is 289 00:10:32,310 --> 00:10:30,399 not really able to comment because we 290 00:10:33,750 --> 00:10:32,320 just didn't see very many objects that 291 00:10:35,670 --> 00:10:33,760 are that small so we're not able to 292 00:10:37,110 --> 00:10:35,680 comment however previous studies 293 00:10:38,790 --> 00:10:37,120 indicate that there may be as many as 294 00:10:40,870 --> 00:10:38,800 about a million or so of these very 295 00:10:42,870 --> 00:10:40,880 small asteroids but 296 00:10:45,110 --> 00:10:42,880 even so if we sum up and look at all of 297 00:10:47,350 --> 00:10:45,120 these things everything between a 298 00:10:49,110 --> 00:10:47,360 hundred meters and a thousand meters one 299 00:10:51,030 --> 00:10:49,120 kilometer we believe that there's 300 00:10:53,350 --> 00:10:51,040 something like nineteen thousand five 301 00:10:55,590 --> 00:10:53,360 hundred predicted to exist in the total 302 00:10:57,509 --> 00:10:55,600 population compared to a previous 303 00:10:59,430 --> 00:10:57,519 estimate of about thirty five thousand 304 00:11:01,110 --> 00:10:59,440 so there are fewer however it's 305 00:11:04,069 --> 00:11:01,120 important to note that we've only found 306 00:11:05,509 --> 00:11:04,079 a fairly small fraction of these to date 307 00:11:07,670 --> 00:11:05,519 okay so 308 00:11:09,910 --> 00:11:07,680 to give us a little bit more information 309 00:11:12,470 --> 00:11:09,920 about infrared and the value of these 310 00:11:14,470 --> 00:11:12,480 surveys is tim sparr dr tim sparr is the 311 00:11:16,069 --> 00:11:14,480 director of the minor planet center in 312 00:11:18,150 --> 00:11:16,079 massachusetts 313 00:11:19,269 --> 00:11:18,160 uh thanks for the lead in amy 314 00:11:21,829 --> 00:11:19,279 um 315 00:11:24,150 --> 00:11:21,839 the job of the minor planet center is to 316 00:11:25,750 --> 00:11:24,160 collect all of the asteroid data that's 317 00:11:27,829 --> 00:11:25,760 taken worldwide 318 00:11:29,750 --> 00:11:27,839 and so we're in a position where we 319 00:11:31,910 --> 00:11:29,760 interact with all the other asteroid 320 00:11:33,750 --> 00:11:31,920 astronomers we collect positional data 321 00:11:36,470 --> 00:11:33,760 we distribute the orbits 322 00:11:38,150 --> 00:11:36,480 and one of the things that we do is to 323 00:11:41,350 --> 00:11:38,160 try to discriminate between near-earth 324 00:11:42,630 --> 00:11:41,360 asteroids and the main belt asteroids 325 00:11:44,389 --> 00:11:42,640 and 326 00:11:47,190 --> 00:11:44,399 from this perspective from my 327 00:11:48,630 --> 00:11:47,200 perspective at the mpc uh the neo-wise 328 00:11:49,990 --> 00:11:48,640 mission is the most important project in 329 00:11:51,590 --> 00:11:50,000 my career 330 00:11:53,829 --> 00:11:51,600 and the real punchline of this is that 331 00:11:55,509 --> 00:11:53,839 they observed the size they were able to 332 00:11:57,110 --> 00:11:55,519 determine the size of every object that 333 00:11:59,190 --> 00:11:57,120 they observed 334 00:12:01,990 --> 00:11:59,200 in addition when i combined the 335 00:12:03,430 --> 00:12:02,000 positional information that they gave us 336 00:12:05,030 --> 00:12:03,440 with that from the other surveys that 337 00:12:07,350 --> 00:12:05,040 lindley described 338 00:12:09,190 --> 00:12:07,360 they were able to produce a very good 339 00:12:10,470 --> 00:12:09,200 orbit model for all of the objects and 340 00:12:12,150 --> 00:12:10,480 not just the near-earth objects i'm 341 00:12:16,470 --> 00:12:12,160 talking about the main belt asteroids 342 00:12:21,269 --> 00:12:19,750 neo-wise observed actually 25 percent of 343 00:12:22,870 --> 00:12:21,279 the entire known 344 00:12:25,670 --> 00:12:22,880 asteroid population so that was 345 00:12:27,110 --> 00:12:25,680 something like 150 000 346 00:12:28,870 --> 00:12:27,120 objects 347 00:12:30,230 --> 00:12:28,880 and 348 00:12:31,670 --> 00:12:30,240 because they could again because they 349 00:12:32,949 --> 00:12:31,680 could determine the size of all of these 350 00:12:35,110 --> 00:12:32,959 objects we were able to put together a 351 00:12:37,110 --> 00:12:35,120 really good model 352 00:12:38,949 --> 00:12:37,120 and it's important to know that this was 353 00:12:40,870 --> 00:12:38,959 something that was it was a contributory 354 00:12:42,710 --> 00:12:40,880 effect this fit in perfectly with the 355 00:12:44,150 --> 00:12:42,720 other surveys that are already there it 356 00:12:45,670 --> 00:12:44,160 looked at a different wavelength and a 357 00:12:47,590 --> 00:12:45,680 different area of the sky so everything 358 00:12:50,069 --> 00:12:47,600 fit together very well 359 00:12:52,870 --> 00:12:50,079 now to give a little idea of the census 360 00:12:54,470 --> 00:12:52,880 we've got a video here 361 00:12:55,430 --> 00:12:54,480 and all right go ahead and start that 362 00:12:58,069 --> 00:12:55,440 please 363 00:13:00,629 --> 00:12:58,079 this each little dot again not to scale 364 00:13:03,829 --> 00:13:00,639 is an asteroid that was observed by the 365 00:13:06,069 --> 00:13:03,839 wise the neowise program in the center 366 00:13:07,590 --> 00:13:06,079 you have the sun and the outer orbit 367 00:13:09,910 --> 00:13:07,600 there is the orbit of jupiter and if you 368 00:13:11,590 --> 00:13:09,920 give that just a good look you can see 369 00:13:13,670 --> 00:13:11,600 the sampling 370 00:13:15,509 --> 00:13:13,680 of all the different populations of main 371 00:13:17,350 --> 00:13:15,519 belt asteroids there's objects out by 372 00:13:18,949 --> 00:13:17,360 jupiter and there's a whole bunch of 373 00:13:20,710 --> 00:13:18,959 objects in there 374 00:13:23,670 --> 00:13:20,720 near the earth so that's the near-earth 375 00:13:26,550 --> 00:13:23,680 asteroid population and this is showing 376 00:13:28,550 --> 00:13:26,560 just over one year how powerful this 377 00:13:31,190 --> 00:13:28,560 program was observed a quarter of the 378 00:13:39,189 --> 00:13:31,200 known population and censused a good 379 00:13:44,230 --> 00:13:40,389 so 380 00:13:46,710 --> 00:13:44,240 information on 381 00:13:48,069 --> 00:13:46,720 how the spacecraft works in terms of 382 00:13:49,910 --> 00:13:48,079 determining the sizes and we want to 383 00:13:52,550 --> 00:13:49,920 make sure we get this through so 384 00:13:54,629 --> 00:13:52,560 the next picture that we have here 385 00:13:56,550 --> 00:13:54,639 is a visible light image this would be 386 00:13:58,629 --> 00:13:56,560 what you would see 387 00:14:00,790 --> 00:13:58,639 go ahead cue that one up all right that 388 00:14:02,230 --> 00:14:00,800 would be what you would see from 389 00:14:03,990 --> 00:14:02,240 a visible light telescope like the 390 00:14:05,350 --> 00:14:04,000 existing surveys that we have so you see 391 00:14:06,470 --> 00:14:05,360 three asteroids that look similar 392 00:14:08,069 --> 00:14:06,480 brightness 393 00:14:09,990 --> 00:14:08,079 now we can go to the next iteration 394 00:14:12,710 --> 00:14:10,000 please so on the left hand side we have 395 00:14:14,150 --> 00:14:12,720 a small reflective object and on the 396 00:14:16,310 --> 00:14:14,160 right hand side we have a large dark 397 00:14:19,030 --> 00:14:16,320 object and again we as we heard before 398 00:14:21,350 --> 00:14:19,040 those will look the same in the visible 399 00:14:22,470 --> 00:14:21,360 light now if i could have the last slide 400 00:14:24,310 --> 00:14:22,480 please 401 00:14:25,829 --> 00:14:24,320 this is the real key 402 00:14:28,470 --> 00:14:25,839 in the infrared light we get a 403 00:14:29,910 --> 00:14:28,480 discrimination in the size from neo-wise 404 00:14:31,590 --> 00:14:29,920 and so on the left-hand side the 405 00:14:34,069 --> 00:14:31,600 smallest object 406 00:14:35,829 --> 00:14:34,079 actually looks to be the dimmest and the 407 00:14:37,910 --> 00:14:35,839 neo-wise images and the right-hand side 408 00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:37,920 the largest object looks to be the 409 00:14:41,670 --> 00:14:39,680 brightest 410 00:14:43,030 --> 00:14:41,680 this is really the most important part 411 00:14:45,750 --> 00:14:43,040 of it if you think of trying to do a 412 00:14:47,509 --> 00:14:45,760 census you need to know the actual 413 00:14:50,230 --> 00:14:47,519 physical characteristics of the object 414 00:14:52,389 --> 00:14:50,240 and this is what we get from neowise we 415 00:14:54,230 --> 00:14:52,399 got the actual sizes and as we take a 416 00:14:55,990 --> 00:14:54,240 fraction of the population we can extend 417 00:14:57,990 --> 00:14:56,000 that knowing the size and the orbit 418 00:14:59,829 --> 00:14:58,000 characteristics to the whole asteroid 419 00:15:01,590 --> 00:14:59,839 population and that to me is why it was 420 00:15:03,350 --> 00:15:01,600 so important 421 00:15:05,509 --> 00:15:03,360 now i would like to hand things over to 422 00:15:07,430 --> 00:15:05,519 dr lucy mcfadden to drill down into some 423 00:15:09,030 --> 00:15:07,440 of the other aspects of the project and 424 00:15:10,470 --> 00:15:09,040 other nasa missions 425 00:15:12,310 --> 00:15:10,480 thank you tim 426 00:15:14,550 --> 00:15:12,320 first of all i find it really exciting 427 00:15:16,230 --> 00:15:14,560 that scientists continue to find things 428 00:15:18,629 --> 00:15:16,240 in the solar system 429 00:15:20,230 --> 00:15:18,639 bodies in orbit around the sun and 430 00:15:21,590 --> 00:15:20,240 objects that are close to our our 431 00:15:23,350 --> 00:15:21,600 backyard 432 00:15:25,430 --> 00:15:23,360 in the near-earth space 433 00:15:27,990 --> 00:15:25,440 i want to congratulate the team for your 434 00:15:29,189 --> 00:15:28,000 successes and i know from experience 435 00:15:31,430 --> 00:15:29,199 that it 436 00:15:34,310 --> 00:15:31,440 that in order to conduct a survey and to 437 00:15:36,629 --> 00:15:34,320 locate and discover new bodies in 438 00:15:39,670 --> 00:15:36,639 from spacecraft missions requires a lot 439 00:15:42,870 --> 00:15:39,680 of planning a lot of ingenuity 440 00:15:45,670 --> 00:15:42,880 huge amounts of computing power and then 441 00:15:47,509 --> 00:15:45,680 hours and hours months of discussions 442 00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:47,519 with colleagues and pouring over the 443 00:15:51,829 --> 00:15:50,000 data to validate the results so i want 444 00:15:53,670 --> 00:15:51,839 to congratulate you all it was a big 445 00:15:54,470 --> 00:15:53,680 team effort that you should all be proud 446 00:15:57,110 --> 00:15:54,480 of 447 00:15:59,269 --> 00:15:57,120 there are 28 co-authors on the papers 448 00:16:01,110 --> 00:15:59,279 that are to be published and each one of 449 00:16:04,230 --> 00:16:01,120 them has had a critical role in the 450 00:16:06,389 --> 00:16:04,240 success of the of the project 451 00:16:08,870 --> 00:16:06,399 additionally it's terrific to have a 452 00:16:10,710 --> 00:16:08,880 satellite that that can 453 00:16:13,749 --> 00:16:10,720 reach the greatest depths of the 454 00:16:16,069 --> 00:16:13,759 universe and also find things right here 455 00:16:18,470 --> 00:16:16,079 close to home 456 00:16:20,550 --> 00:16:18,480 um can i see the have the first slide 457 00:16:23,030 --> 00:16:20,560 here again we like we like looking at 458 00:16:25,110 --> 00:16:23,040 the bird's eye view of our solar system 459 00:16:27,189 --> 00:16:25,120 with the with the uh 460 00:16:29,430 --> 00:16:27,199 the circles or actually ellipses 461 00:16:32,389 --> 00:16:29,440 representing the paths of the planets 462 00:16:34,470 --> 00:16:32,399 and the white dots representing the uh 463 00:16:37,030 --> 00:16:34,480 the the asteroids 464 00:16:38,870 --> 00:16:37,040 um they're minor planets we we consider 465 00:16:41,269 --> 00:16:38,880 the minor planets because of their small 466 00:16:43,670 --> 00:16:41,279 size and it's really fun to welcome the 467 00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:43,680 the new asteroids into our consciousness 468 00:16:48,069 --> 00:16:45,680 of the solar system 469 00:16:49,990 --> 00:16:48,079 another concept that i marvel at is that 470 00:16:51,749 --> 00:16:50,000 their presence their mere presence 471 00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:51,759 reveals the past 472 00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:54,240 when the solar system was forming solids 473 00:16:58,550 --> 00:16:57,360 condensed from the rotating disk of gas 474 00:17:01,269 --> 00:16:58,560 and dust 475 00:17:03,189 --> 00:17:01,279 and and planets grew some of them to 476 00:17:05,429 --> 00:17:03,199 hundreds of kilometers 477 00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:05,439 um and they weren't they 478 00:17:09,189 --> 00:17:07,120 their growth was stopped by the 479 00:17:11,669 --> 00:17:09,199 formation of the larger planets the 480 00:17:13,429 --> 00:17:11,679 major planets that that are 481 00:17:16,870 --> 00:17:13,439 tens of thousands to hundreds of 482 00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:16,880 thousands of kilometers in diameter 483 00:17:23,029 --> 00:17:19,679 so in the asteroid population we see 484 00:17:24,949 --> 00:17:23,039 both early planets that grew to 485 00:17:27,110 --> 00:17:24,959 what i call a small size hundreds of 486 00:17:29,669 --> 00:17:27,120 kilometers but also 487 00:17:31,590 --> 00:17:29,679 um the remnants of larger planets that 488 00:17:34,789 --> 00:17:31,600 were broken up from collisions in the 489 00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:34,799 solar system and and the challenge is to 490 00:17:38,310 --> 00:17:36,000 determine 491 00:17:39,909 --> 00:17:38,320 which asteroids are which and what the 492 00:17:42,310 --> 00:17:39,919 time scale is 493 00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:42,320 what happened when 494 00:17:46,390 --> 00:17:43,840 so um 495 00:17:49,110 --> 00:17:46,400 next slide please to to complement the 496 00:17:51,190 --> 00:17:49,120 surveys what the surveys tell us is what 497 00:17:53,430 --> 00:17:51,200 the big population is give us the big 498 00:17:55,830 --> 00:17:53,440 picture they also allow us to decide 499 00:17:57,350 --> 00:17:55,840 which ones to go study up close with 500 00:17:59,990 --> 00:17:57,360 robotic missions 501 00:18:02,070 --> 00:18:00,000 so here we have about nine asteroids 502 00:18:04,150 --> 00:18:02,080 that have been studied with 503 00:18:05,430 --> 00:18:04,160 robotic spacecraft missions in the past 504 00:18:07,909 --> 00:18:05,440 20 years 505 00:18:08,950 --> 00:18:07,919 um we've we've covered a wide range of 506 00:18:11,110 --> 00:18:08,960 sizes 507 00:18:13,190 --> 00:18:11,120 um and asteroids from different parts of 508 00:18:15,350 --> 00:18:13,200 the whole asteroid belt as as well as 509 00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:15,360 some in near earth space 510 00:18:18,470 --> 00:18:16,320 um 511 00:18:20,789 --> 00:18:18,480 what i'd like to point out here the 512 00:18:22,789 --> 00:18:20,799 obvious one the biggest one here is 513 00:18:25,430 --> 00:18:22,799 asteroid 4 vesta 514 00:18:27,270 --> 00:18:25,440 which which has a spacecraft in orbit 515 00:18:29,909 --> 00:18:27,280 about it today 516 00:18:31,270 --> 00:18:29,919 orbiting for for the next nine months 517 00:18:32,070 --> 00:18:31,280 and and 518 00:18:34,630 --> 00:18:32,080 getting 519 00:18:36,549 --> 00:18:34,640 revealing this body as a as a world of 520 00:18:39,029 --> 00:18:36,559 its own looking at the surface 521 00:18:40,950 --> 00:18:39,039 properties determining its composition 522 00:18:43,430 --> 00:18:40,960 and determining the processes that hit 523 00:18:44,950 --> 00:18:43,440 it and you can see by looking at the 524 00:18:46,870 --> 00:18:44,960 surface that they're craters on the 525 00:18:48,230 --> 00:18:46,880 surface and that tells us that there 526 00:18:51,350 --> 00:18:48,240 were collisions 527 00:18:54,070 --> 00:18:51,360 bodies collided with the planet with i'm 528 00:18:56,630 --> 00:18:54,080 sorry bodies collided with vesta 529 00:18:59,029 --> 00:18:56,640 and debris was ejected from it 530 00:19:00,870 --> 00:18:59,039 and over tens of millions of years or 531 00:19:03,029 --> 00:19:00,880 maybe longer 532 00:19:06,230 --> 00:19:03,039 objects have been 533 00:19:08,310 --> 00:19:06,240 have found their way through a dance and 534 00:19:10,390 --> 00:19:08,320 if we could go to the next slide through 535 00:19:11,590 --> 00:19:10,400 a dance of gravity and solar system 536 00:19:13,669 --> 00:19:11,600 dynamics 537 00:19:16,470 --> 00:19:13,679 bodies have found their way 538 00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:16,480 into um collision collision course with 539 00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:19,760 the earth and we see these as meteors 540 00:19:25,590 --> 00:19:22,799 mostly fireballs terrific fireballs that 541 00:19:28,630 --> 00:19:25,600 are spectacular um this one was captured 542 00:19:31,029 --> 00:19:28,640 during a football game in 1992 543 00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:31,039 and um it traveled the whole length of 544 00:19:35,669 --> 00:19:32,640 the eastern seaboard 545 00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:35,679 and coincidentally landed in a small 546 00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:38,480 town in the hudson river of upstate new 547 00:19:43,909 --> 00:19:40,880 york where i used to spend my summers 548 00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:43,919 and it landed as a meteorite 549 00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:48,240 so we have um we have in our collection 550 00:19:52,549 --> 00:19:49,840 um 551 00:19:55,909 --> 00:19:52,559 meteorites that have landed on earth 552 00:19:57,669 --> 00:19:55,919 and as an example here we were showing a 553 00:20:01,350 --> 00:19:57,679 picture of myself 554 00:20:03,990 --> 00:20:01,360 on a scientific expedition in 2008 555 00:20:06,549 --> 00:20:04,000 looking for the remnants of an asteroid 556 00:20:09,270 --> 00:20:06,559 that was discovered by astronomers with 557 00:20:11,270 --> 00:20:09,280 their telescope who determined that the 558 00:20:12,710 --> 00:20:11,280 asteroid was going to collide with earth 559 00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:12,720 and it broke up in the earth's 560 00:20:15,590 --> 00:20:14,320 atmosphere just as the peak skill 561 00:20:17,270 --> 00:20:15,600 meteorite did 562 00:20:18,789 --> 00:20:17,280 and through 563 00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:18,799 communications 564 00:20:24,149 --> 00:20:20,799 and precise calculations and 565 00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:24,159 measurements we were able to determine 566 00:20:28,390 --> 00:20:26,640 the location of the meteorite fall and 567 00:20:30,630 --> 00:20:28,400 actually travel with students from 568 00:20:32,870 --> 00:20:30,640 university of khartoum and search for 569 00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:32,880 these meteorites and recover them 570 00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:35,039 so we have these samples here which now 571 00:20:40,470 --> 00:20:37,360 cosmo chemists can study 572 00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:40,480 um in their laboratories and give us yet 573 00:20:45,909 --> 00:20:43,760 more detail on the processes and the 574 00:20:48,070 --> 00:20:45,919 history of of 575 00:20:51,590 --> 00:20:48,080 products and processes in the solar 576 00:20:54,390 --> 00:20:51,600 system so we have so what we can go what 577 00:20:57,510 --> 00:20:54,400 we've done is going from 578 00:20:59,430 --> 00:20:57,520 points of light amidst the infrared glow 579 00:21:01,990 --> 00:20:59,440 of the universe 580 00:21:03,669 --> 00:21:02,000 to rocks from space that tell us about 581 00:21:05,590 --> 00:21:03,679 the solar system's four and a half 582 00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:05,600 billion year existence 583 00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:08,000 and then instead of just being afraid of 584 00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:10,640 of asteroid impact disasters these 585 00:21:13,990 --> 00:21:12,320 objects can teach us 586 00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:14,000 tell us information about the solar 587 00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:21,029 thanks lucy for uh for summing this all 588 00:21:25,270 --> 00:21:23,840 up and just to pull it all together for 589 00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:25,280 what we've learned today from the 590 00:21:29,430 --> 00:21:27,360 neowise project so far 591 00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:29,440 is today we have good news with some 592 00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:31,200 important caveats 593 00:21:35,430 --> 00:21:33,520 so we've learned with neowise that the 594 00:21:36,789 --> 00:21:35,440 worldwide community of astronomers 595 00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:36,799 looking at near-earth asteroids have 596 00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:38,720 found 93 percent 597 00:21:42,549 --> 00:21:40,320 of all the really big near-earth 598 00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:42,559 asteroids that we think are out there 599 00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:44,640 and this is substantially reduced the 600 00:21:50,070 --> 00:21:47,919 risk of of an impact that is not warned 601 00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:50,080 in other words we we know now where most 602 00:21:52,630 --> 00:21:51,600 of them are and where most of them are 603 00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:52,640 going 604 00:21:57,350 --> 00:21:54,480 that really has reduced our risk of an 605 00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:57,360 unwarned impact from a really big one 606 00:22:02,310 --> 00:21:59,520 also we predict that there are somewhat 607 00:22:04,549 --> 00:22:02,320 fewer medium-sized asteroids out there 608 00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:04,559 in the earth space but fewer does not 609 00:22:08,070 --> 00:22:06,640 mean none and there are still tens of 610 00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:08,080 thousands out there that are left to 611 00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:09,280 find 612 00:22:12,710 --> 00:22:11,360 so we still need to keep going on the 613 00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:12,720 survey efforts we have a lot of work 614 00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:14,320 left to do much more research and we 615 00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:16,080 still need to specifically analyze the 616 00:22:19,750 --> 00:22:18,000 subset of near-earth asteroids that get 617 00:22:21,909 --> 00:22:19,760 really close to the earth 618 00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:21,919 but overall at this point our 619 00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:23,360 understanding of the near-earth asteroid 620 00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:25,200 population has been significantly 621 00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:28,000 improved and we believe that the hazard 622 00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:30,480 to the earth may be somewhat less 623 00:22:35,750 --> 00:22:31,840 thank you 624 00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:35,760 going to transition into the question 625 00:22:40,149 --> 00:22:37,120 and answer period we're going to first 626 00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:40,159 start down at the kennedy space center 627 00:22:43,669 --> 00:22:41,919 where we have one question and a 628 00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:43,679 follow-up and then we'll go to the phone 629 00:22:55,990 --> 00:22:53,510 florida today 630 00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:56,000 last april uh the president of the 631 00:23:01,830 --> 00:22:58,320 united states was down here at kennedy 632 00:23:03,990 --> 00:23:01,840 space center and he challenged nasa to 633 00:23:07,029 --> 00:23:04,000 send astronauts to an asteroid by the 634 00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:07,039 year 2025. 635 00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:09,679 i was wondering if you could um 636 00:23:15,510 --> 00:23:12,799 tell us whether any of the findings uh 637 00:23:16,789 --> 00:23:15,520 that you found in your survey 638 00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:16,799 might uh 639 00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:18,320 produce 640 00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:22,000 targets uh of opportunity for human 641 00:23:26,470 --> 00:23:24,480 exploration 642 00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:26,480 mark that uh thanks for the question 643 00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:28,240 this is lindley 644 00:23:32,070 --> 00:23:30,720 um we're working with the human space 645 00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:32,080 flight folks 646 00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:33,120 in 647 00:23:44,070 --> 00:23:41,840 if there are available targets 648 00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:44,080 this research the work that neowise has 649 00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:46,000 done has allowed us to understand the 650 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:48,480 population of these objects much more 651 00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:51,440 and to understand uh where we could find 652 00:23:54,230 --> 00:23:52,720 uh more 653 00:23:55,350 --> 00:23:54,240 available targets 654 00:24:05,029 --> 00:23:55,360 uh 655 00:24:08,470 --> 00:24:05,039 to earth are tend to be the smaller ones 656 00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:08,480 in the 100 meter class and as you see 657 00:24:12,390 --> 00:24:09,840 there's a large percentage of the 658 00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:12,400 population still to be found 659 00:24:15,510 --> 00:24:13,200 but 660 00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:15,520 the efforts to date have have shown us 661 00:24:19,430 --> 00:24:17,760 what the population looked like and 662 00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:19,440 where we might 663 00:24:23,110 --> 00:24:21,120 be able to find in the techniques we 664 00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:23,120 need we need to use to find more of 665 00:24:29,350 --> 00:24:25,440 these objects 666 00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:31,590 and just as we follow 667 00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:34,880 could you um tell us in a general 668 00:24:39,029 --> 00:24:36,000 sense for 669 00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:39,039 say my next door neighbor why we would 670 00:24:44,390 --> 00:24:42,000 actually want to send human explorers to 671 00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:44,400 an asteroid 672 00:24:47,430 --> 00:24:45,600 well 673 00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:47,440 exploration of the solar system is uh 674 00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:50,559 one of the goals of uh of nasa uh and 675 00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:53,520 our scientific program uh the human uh 676 00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:55,279 space flight uh is a part of that 677 00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:56,960 exploration 678 00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:00,000 so uh it's it's a natural stepping stone 679 00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:02,640 of our uh exploration uh into the solar 680 00:25:10,310 --> 00:25:08,310 okay we're gonna transition to the phone 681 00:25:11,870 --> 00:25:10,320 lounge now first up 682 00:25:18,149 --> 00:25:11,880 is alan boyle with 683 00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:20,230 thank you i realize you're focusing on 684 00:25:24,310 --> 00:25:22,480 near-earth asteroids today but there's 685 00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:24,320 been so much talk about the potential 686 00:25:30,310 --> 00:25:26,720 for finding a planet x or some sort of 687 00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:30,320 large body through the wise survey can 688 00:25:35,269 --> 00:25:31,840 you comment on 689 00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:35,279 any uh any status on that sort of search 690 00:25:40,070 --> 00:25:38,159 or or maybe even reassure people that 691 00:25:41,269 --> 00:25:40,080 planet x isn't coming to get them next 692 00:25:43,430 --> 00:25:41,279 year 693 00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:43,440 uh yes this is amy meinzer i'm happy to 694 00:25:46,950 --> 00:25:45,600 answer this one their planet x is not 695 00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:46,960 coming to get us 696 00:25:51,430 --> 00:25:49,520 um so but we are looking to see if there 697 00:25:53,110 --> 00:25:51,440 are any other bodies in the outer part 698 00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:53,120 of the solar system with the wise data 699 00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:55,600 this is a very natural project for wise 700 00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:57,279 and so we're still working on it right 701 00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:59,760 now it's we've obviously just returned a 702 00:26:02,789 --> 00:26:01,440 huge amount of data from the telescope 703 00:26:03,990 --> 00:26:02,799 that's going to take us a long time to 704 00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:04,000 sort through 705 00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:05,440 but the initial results are very 706 00:26:08,390 --> 00:26:06,880 promising you may have seen earlier 707 00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:08,400 results where we've discovered a new 708 00:26:12,149 --> 00:26:11,039 class of very cool type of stars with 709 00:26:14,310 --> 00:26:12,159 wise 710 00:26:15,510 --> 00:26:14,320 but the search is still on and we don't 711 00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:15,520 think that there's anything that's 712 00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:17,120 hazardous in the outer solar system we 713 00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:19,200 think that this is just a sort of a if 714 00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:20,880 there is something out there it would be 715 00:26:26,789 --> 00:26:25,360 a large body in a roughly circular orbit 716 00:26:29,830 --> 00:26:26,799 our next caller 717 00:26:33,990 --> 00:26:29,840 denise chow from space.com when you say 718 00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:36,149 yeah the the initial results are very 719 00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:38,240 promising anything else he wanted to say 720 00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:40,240 on that point we've actually been able 721 00:26:45,430 --> 00:26:43,520 to confirm the discovery of 100 new 722 00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:45,440 objects that are these very cool stars 723 00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:47,200 called brown dwarfs 724 00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:50,000 and so that's very similar to what 725 00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:51,520 people are interested in looking for so 726 00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:52,720 we've actually found some of these that 727 00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:54,159 are relatively close to the earth but 728 00:26:57,269 --> 00:26:55,919 none of these are closer at this point 729 00:26:58,470 --> 00:26:57,279 than the nearest star to our solar 730 00:27:02,470 --> 00:26:58,480 system 731 00:27:06,549 --> 00:27:03,669 thank you 732 00:27:10,630 --> 00:27:06,559 okay now we'll go to denise 733 00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:12,789 hi uh denise childspace.com thanks for 734 00:27:17,029 --> 00:27:15,679 taking my question um i was under the 735 00:27:19,909 --> 00:27:17,039 impression but please correct me if i'm 736 00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:19,919 wrong that the um the wise mission was 737 00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:22,000 um officially shut down in february of 738 00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:24,559 2011. um so does that mean that in the 739 00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:26,159 months and years to come it'll be more 740 00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:27,840 of sifting through the survey 741 00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:29,440 information has been collected or is 742 00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:32,240 there a plan to continue with 743 00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:34,320 another mission to take more of these uh 744 00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:35,600 sky surveys 745 00:27:38,389 --> 00:27:36,320 well 746 00:27:39,669 --> 00:27:38,399 uh this is amy and i'll answer this uh 747 00:27:41,909 --> 00:27:39,679 we like to think that the wise 748 00:27:44,470 --> 00:27:41,919 spacecraft having completed its baseline 749 00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:44,480 mission successfully is now in honorable 750 00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:46,880 retirement it's in hibernation mode 751 00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:48,720 having accomplished all of the goals and 752 00:27:51,669 --> 00:27:50,799 then some that were set out for it so 753 00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:51,679 we're 754 00:28:09,269 --> 00:28:01,510 okay 755 00:28:13,990 --> 00:28:11,510 oh sorry uh just the the benefits of 756 00:28:15,909 --> 00:28:14,000 having a manned mission to an asteroid 757 00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:15,919 as opposed to just collecting samples 758 00:28:26,870 --> 00:28:21,029 now could you repeat that again the 759 00:28:30,630 --> 00:28:28,630 oh sorry i was just wondering if you 760 00:28:32,549 --> 00:28:30,640 could explain the benefits of having a 761 00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:32,559 manned mission to an asteroid as opposed 762 00:28:35,350 --> 00:28:34,080 to um collecting samples just 763 00:28:37,190 --> 00:28:35,360 robotically and returning those 764 00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:37,200 terrorists 765 00:28:42,710 --> 00:28:39,679 our take that uh this is lindley again 766 00:28:44,789 --> 00:28:42,720 uh the human space flight they are still 767 00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:44,799 working out the uh 768 00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:47,120 objectives uh and constraints and 769 00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:49,360 requirements of a human spaceflight 770 00:28:54,149 --> 00:28:51,039 mission to an neo 771 00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:54,159 but um we're for robotic mission uh you 772 00:28:58,549 --> 00:28:55,679 have certain capabilities that you're 773 00:29:00,310 --> 00:28:58,559 able to do but uh 774 00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:00,320 since those have to be programmed ahead 775 00:29:04,630 --> 00:29:03,039 of time and 776 00:29:06,870 --> 00:29:04,640 has to be all planned out and thought 777 00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:06,880 out ahead of time to to get the robot to 778 00:29:11,510 --> 00:29:08,960 do what you needed to do 779 00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:11,520 there are some limitations to to robotic 780 00:29:15,669 --> 00:29:12,960 sample collection 781 00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:15,679 uh one of the big advantages of humans 782 00:29:21,669 --> 00:29:18,000 is they're able to think on the fly 783 00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:21,679 and adapt quite quickly uh given 784 00:29:26,389 --> 00:29:24,080 some basic capabilities so that would 785 00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:26,399 certainly be one advantage 786 00:29:31,029 --> 00:29:29,600 of a human exploration of an asteroid to 787 00:29:33,669 --> 00:29:31,039 be able to 788 00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:35,350 think of 789 00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:37,039 different 790 00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:39,039 things to be done while you're at the 791 00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:42,159 asteroid look in different places for 792 00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:44,960 samples to be to be returned of course 793 00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:47,039 one of the biggest 794 00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:48,720 science objectives of a human 795 00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:50,399 exploration to an asteroid would be to 796 00:30:05,590 --> 00:29:53,279 bring back samples 797 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:12,470 okay go ahead she's coming right now 798 00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:15,350 new estimate of roughly 19 000 mid-sized 799 00:30:19,430 --> 00:30:17,600 near-earth asteroids 800 00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:19,440 the majority of those have not been 801 00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:22,799 discovered and i'm wondering what um 802 00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:25,200 missions or projects are underway to 803 00:30:29,190 --> 00:30:27,200 discover those and i also wondered if 804 00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:29,200 you could characterize the damage to our 805 00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:30,960 planet that would occur if one of those 806 00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:34,720 mid-sized objects struck the earth 807 00:30:39,110 --> 00:30:36,799 i guess i'll take that uh again this is 808 00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:39,120 uh this is lindley uh your first 809 00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:41,279 question is about uh the ongoing efforts 810 00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:43,200 uh what are we continuing to do uh we 811 00:30:47,909 --> 00:30:45,440 continue to run uh uh several 812 00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:47,919 ground-based teams uh that have been in 813 00:30:51,990 --> 00:30:50,000 operation for several years and have 814 00:30:54,310 --> 00:30:52,000 actually found the majority 815 00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:54,320 of the known objects 816 00:30:58,870 --> 00:30:57,360 those projects continue we are looking 817 00:31:01,750 --> 00:30:58,880 at uh 818 00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:01,760 increased more capabilities 819 00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:04,640 the neo-wise mission kind of gave us a 820 00:31:10,310 --> 00:31:06,960 prototype of 821 00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:10,320 a space-based mission that we might look 822 00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:12,240 at for the future but we have to examine 823 00:31:15,269 --> 00:31:14,000 the cost and benefit of doing it from 824 00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:15,279 space 825 00:31:19,350 --> 00:31:17,360 in the infrared versus 826 00:31:21,190 --> 00:31:19,360 ground-based observatory larger 827 00:31:25,269 --> 00:31:21,200 ground-based observatories 828 00:31:28,389 --> 00:31:25,279 um so there's there's actually a whole 829 00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:28,399 spectrum of capabilities to be looked at 830 00:31:32,950 --> 00:31:31,760 it it's really it's not one system to do 831 00:31:34,630 --> 00:31:32,960 it it's a 832 00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:34,640 complement of both ground and 833 00:31:39,029 --> 00:31:37,200 space-based systems which would probably 834 00:31:40,149 --> 00:31:39,039 be the best 835 00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:40,159 to 836 00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:43,279 recover the entire population of these 837 00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:45,120 objects 838 00:31:51,029 --> 00:31:46,559 uh and i've forgotten your second 839 00:31:53,669 --> 00:31:51,830 oh 840 00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:53,679 uh thanks amy um 841 00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:55,519 uh you wanted uh some idea what the 842 00:32:01,269 --> 00:31:58,080 damage of say a hundred meter uh uh 843 00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:01,279 asteroid if it were to impact the earth 844 00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:03,279 because of the orbital dynamics the 845 00:32:07,029 --> 00:32:04,799 relative uh 846 00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:07,039 speed at which these objects uh hit the 847 00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:07,840 earth 848 00:32:14,149 --> 00:32:12,240 uh would be on on the order of uh 849 00:32:16,470 --> 00:32:14,159 tens of uh 850 00:32:19,190 --> 00:32:16,480 miles per second so that's a lot of 851 00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:19,200 energy to be dissipated in an instance 852 00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:20,000 so 853 00:32:22,870 --> 00:32:21,360 uh 854 00:32:24,870 --> 00:32:22,880 it is quite 855 00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:24,880 a large 856 00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:25,919 area 857 00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:28,000 that would be damaged by the impact of 858 00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:30,080 100 meter object something on the order 859 00:32:33,750 --> 00:32:32,960 of a metropolitan area 860 00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:33,760 if 861 00:32:38,470 --> 00:32:35,919 say for instance one were to hit in the 862 00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:38,480 middle of the dc area it would pretty 863 00:32:42,149 --> 00:32:39,840 much 864 00:32:45,190 --> 00:32:42,159 devastate the entire area within the 865 00:32:49,269 --> 00:32:47,110 this is tim's bar i'd like to make one 866 00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:49,279 general comment on the existing 867 00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:51,120 excuse me the existing 868 00:32:57,909 --> 00:32:54,640 search teams they're finding roughly 500 869 00:33:00,149 --> 00:32:57,919 objects larger than 100 meters per year 870 00:33:02,310 --> 00:33:00,159 and so it's a little bit slow going but 871 00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:02,320 the existing assets are capable of 872 00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:04,320 certainly doing a good job with this 873 00:33:08,389 --> 00:33:07,360 certainly given enough years 874 00:33:10,710 --> 00:33:08,399 they will 875 00:33:13,190 --> 00:33:10,720 eventually recover the 876 00:33:16,630 --> 00:33:13,200 population but it uh it will be several 877 00:33:19,350 --> 00:33:16,640 decades with just existing assets 878 00:33:20,950 --> 00:33:19,360 okay we uh have one final question i 879 00:33:23,029 --> 00:33:20,960 think this is a good wrap up this is for 880 00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:23,039 amy for one of the dot coms with all 881 00:33:28,950 --> 00:33:24,720 this uh data 882 00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:30,389 one of the most exciting things about 883 00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:32,399 having uh data from a spacecraft 884 00:33:36,149 --> 00:33:34,640 likewise and the neowise project is that 885 00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:36,159 uh there's just so many different things 886 00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:38,399 you can do with it one of the things 887 00:33:42,149 --> 00:33:40,320 we're very interested in studying is the 888 00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:42,159 subset of near-earth asteroids that are 889 00:33:45,269 --> 00:33:44,240 considered potentially hazardous meaning 890 00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:45,279 that they have 891 00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:46,720 orbits that take them very close to the 892 00:33:49,590 --> 00:33:48,000 earth we're going to be looking at those 893 00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:49,600 in greater detail 894 00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:50,720 we're also going to be studying 895 00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:52,399 asteroids between the main in the main 896 00:33:56,149 --> 00:33:54,399 belt between mars and jupiter 897 00:33:57,909 --> 00:33:56,159 and so we've just got a lot of good 898 00:33:59,990 --> 00:33:57,919 things left to do and it's going to keep 899 00:34:02,470 --> 00:34:00,000 us busy for a long time 900 00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:02,480 if i might add to that this uh 901 00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:04,480 subset of the population that amy talks 902 00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:06,559 about those that are have closest 903 00:34:10,470 --> 00:34:08,960 encounters with earth that's also the 904 00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:10,480 population of objects which will make 905 00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:12,800 the base best human space flight targets 906 00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:14,159 so there are 907 00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:16,240 a particular interest for not just a 908 00:34:23,909 --> 00:34:21,520 hazard but for exploration destinations 909 00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:23,919 okay that's going to wrap up here and i 910 00:34:27,589 --> 00:34:25,599 would like to remind folks that go to 911 00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:27,599 www.nasa.gov 912 00:34:32,149 --> 00:34:30,079 wise for the information presented today 913 00:34:34,149 --> 00:34:32,159 also our participants are available for 914 00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:34,159 follow-up interviews just contact my